Reproductive Rights

If a woman gets an unwanted pregnancy, she can opt out of motherhood by having an abortion, giving the kid for adoption, or using a Save Haven baby drop off. If a man gets a woman pregnant and is not ready or willing to be a father, he has two options; he can be financially locked into fatherhood or he can run away and be labeled a “deadbeat dad” and possibly hunted down by the authorities and forced to pay for the child he did not want or thrown in jail.

MRAs want men to be able to opt out of fatherhood, as well. Not three years down the road, not when the pressures of parenthood get to be too great, but as soon as he learns he has impregnated a woman, a man should be allowed to have a choice regarding whether or not he is a dad.

Feminism-reproductivechoiceWe have never heard any feminists organisations publicly demand equality for men on this topic.
They have a dubious interpretation of “striving for equality”.

Somewhat related to reproductive rights, we also want Canada to remove the laws regarding infanticide which let mothers get off easy when murdering their infants.
Article 237. Punishment for infanticide
Article 233. Infanticide

If women really are this mentally unstable, “her mind is then disturbed”, after giving birth and during lactation that it requires a special law limiting their responsibility then maybe we should take all the babies away from them for the baby’s sake.
We believe women are no more mentally fragile than men and therefore should be held fully responsible for their actions.

5 Comments

  1. Diane says:

    The issues I have with MRA groups are the same I have with radical feminist groups.
    There are many important issues that men face uniquely that you have highlighted here.
    For instance, I agree that violence against men needs more attention. The notion that men should be “tough” and can’t be the recipients of physical or emotional abuse is damaging to both genders and should be publicly addressed. It stems from a larger issue of gender stereotypes and how society, as a whole, views the roles we all play.
    However, the reasonable issues that are brought up in this group are completely shadowed by a lot of bitterness and short sighted hate.
    Great example of this:
    “If women really are this mentally unstable, “her mind is then disturbed”, after giving birth and during lactation that it requires a special law limiting their responsibility then maybe we should take all the babies away from them for the baby’s sake.
    We believe women are no more mentally fragile than men and therefore should be held fully responsible for their actions.”
    The laws surrounding people not being held criminally responsible for reasons of insanity are not unique or serving only to women. If you remember, about 6-7 years ago a man decapitated another man on a Greyhound bus. He was found not criminally responsible of his actions and he is now allowed to have unsupervised trips outside of his mental facility.
    Our courts rightfully protect those who are not mentally sound during the act of a violent crime because it is not the same as planning then executing a murder.
    Instead of suggesting that all babies are taken away from women, which is completely absurd, you might want to consider the suggesting that postpartum depression receives more attention or maybe you could suggest that Canada moves towards better publicly funded support for both new mothers and fathers, as it is an extremely difficult time.
    Attacking a gender in this way invalidates the reasonable issues that you are bringing up on this site and will absolutely get you less support from the general public.
    It’s about working together for equality, not about stomping others down to try to get on top.
    Regards,
    Diane

    • James Thurber says:

      Diane: I have to disagree, this is exactly how feminism has worked for 1/2 a century and it has worked wonders.

  2. Rosalie says:

    Are you absolutely kidding me? Women have the right to choose abortion not to prevent being parents but to prevent the physical and emotional toll of being pregnant. As for adoption, fathers already have the right to have sole custody of the child if the mother wants to give it up for adoption and the father doesn’t in which case the mother has to pay child support. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS. I can’t believe you people are in this city.

  3. James Thurber says:

    Rosalie: You are forgetting one VERY (extremely) important fact. The adoption people are referrring to is the legal ability to adopt to someone else. Not to the father/mother.

    There is no way in Canada for a father to adopt to a 3rd party without the mothers consent unless the mother is dead. BUT a woman can legally adopt to a 3rd party without the fathers consent simply by not telling him she is pregnant, and telling the agency it was a one night stand and she doesn’t know who the father is. Prettty simple actually.

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